Success usually has many fathers, and you have, who passed into Holy Independence through Warsaw, was undoubtedly a success in terms of attendance. According to the police, up to 250,000 people took part in it. people. What is the merit of marching attendance? This quickly became the subject of disputes.
The government side talks about success, but it does not mention the Independence March Association, which – as its name suggests – is responsible for the organization of the nationalists' march. This year was planned by them for a long time, but after the ban on the march, which was issued by the President of Warsaw, Hanna Gronkiewicz-Waltz (finally repealed by the court – editors), the authorities announced their participation in the parade. They negotiated with nationalists, but no precise arrangements were made.
It ended so that on November 11, at the beginning of the march, the representatives and the guests went, and then – separated from the VIPs "buffer zone" – the remaining participants, headed by the Guard of the Independence March and ONR banners. There is no official data on how many participants came to stay in the government's white-and-red march, and how many to be on the Independence March. The police only provided aggregate data of 250,000 march ± smokers.
"There are no symbols of national organizations"
The government march officially ended at the Washington roundabout, where the VIPs left the limousines. The nationalists went further, to the flutter of the National Stadium, where representatives of the organization spoke and a concert took place.
After all, the government side thanked for the march. The head of the Prime Minister's Chancellery, Michał Dworczyk, thanked the Ministry of National Defense, the Ministry of the Interior and … clubs of "Gazeta Polska" and participants. He did not mention the organizers of the March of Independence.
It was very good that this march was of a state character – said Andrzej Dera from the President's Chancellery.
He emphasized that certain events should have a state dimension, and – here the quote:
No associations and organizations have no exclusivity for Christmas.
Pawe³ Szefernaker from the Ministry of Interior and Administration wrote:
17:30 between Dmowski roundabout and Washington roundabout tens of thousands of people and a sea of white and red flags. There are no symbols of national organizations "
He emphasized that the participants "came at the invitation of the president and prime minister". In response to the head of the Chief Journalist, journalist Jacek Czarnecki has placed pictures of nationalist banners from 17:11. They were also visible at other times of the march.
The head of the Ministry of Interior and Administration at the conference thanked the services of other ministries and participants of the celebrations in Warsaw. He also did not mention the organizers of the March of Independence from the national circles. He added that incidents on the march, such as the burning of the EU flag, were "obviously worthy of condemnation, but marginal". It is worth pointing out that nationalists do not see anything wrong in burning the flag and in a word mocks ± from the fact that the police are charging for it.
"It was not your march"
The nationalists from the milieu that organize the March of Independence saw the Sunday events differently than the government page. The head of the National Movement, Robert Winnicki, told Onet.pl that the government "joined the organization of the march".
Previous power fought against the March of Independence, the present would like to conclude his success – said Winnicki.
He added that "race, tough opposition to the EU, nationalists from abroad or banners of Catholic and national organizations" belong to "the essence of the march.
In comments on the entry of Dworczyk, one could read, among others such comments:
And where are the thanksgiving for the Association of the March of Independence, on whose summons came so many Poles?
Or maybe for the sake of decency, thank you also to the nationalists?
It was not your march.
"Today, two marches passed through Warsaw: the presidential march (about 5,000 people, separated from the MN by ¯armarmeria Wojskowa) and a grassroots Independence March organized for many years (about 250,000 people, the picture below) "- it was written on the official account of Młodzież Wszechpolska. The entry of nationalists was given further – it included on the official accounts of the head of the All-Polish Youth Ziemowit Przebitkowski and the Twitter of the March of Independence.
"Incorrect entry of a man from the immediate vicinity of the president"
This is not the end of disputes about turnout. The man Andrzej Duda got in too. It started from the fact that, as part of the summary, the police wrote on Twitter that there were 6,000 people at the National Stadium concert in the flashes of the National Stadium. people.
"244,000 participants of the March were not interested in the concert organized by the Narodowców" – picked up Marcin Kêdryna from the Chancellery of the President.
Krzysztof Bosak, vice president of the National Movement, quickly criticized this. "An inelegant and untrue entry of a man from the immediate vicinity of the president," said Bosak outraged. He assured me that "a lot of people have passed through the flames concert, certainly several thousand tons, including PiS and GP."
March of Independence on TVP Info and "Wiadomości"
As we wrote, during the coverage of the march on TVP Info, she focused on showing Polish flags, and the flags of national organizations were not displayed. Nationalists were marginalized also in the "News" of TVP 11 and 12 November, although in the "ones", ie the first materials of the website, they talked about the march that took place in Warsaw and the celebrations in the country.
November 11 in the material about the march there was information about 200 thousand. patriots in Warsaw; it was emphasized that "for the first time the march had a state character". There were shown the frames with white and red flags, the presidential and prime minister's appearance, there was not a single flag of nationalist organizations and no mention of the Independence March association.
On November 12, "Wiadomo¶cie" criticized other media for allegedly unreliable coverage of the march by "showing several unrelated flags". As a background to this statement was shown (arrow – screen below) hidden in the crowd of white-red flags green chorus – probably ONR:
'News' of TVP from 12/11/2018. wiadomosci.tvp.pl
"Jumbled by Mr. Kurski"
The message of TVP was criticized by Robert Winnicki. – We did not reliably report our march in all media – he said at the closing conference on the March of Independence.
Unfortunately, I must say that government television presented the most-manipulated message of that day, which we regret, "said Winnicki.
– What was happening on TVP made an impression as if the social part of the march, except that it was doing the piston for the government part, it was not even noticed at all. This was the main manipulation – said the MP. He claimed that "the organizers of the March of Independence in general do not have the voice in government television."
They are somehow mocked by Mr. Kurski and his team. It's unpalatable. This is the level of propaganda that hurts – said Robert Winnicki.