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Top YouTuber says 'hundreds' of fans lost Google access

  • One of YouTube's most popular creators, Mark "Markiplier" Fischbach, took a stand against the platform on Friday with his video titled "YouTube has a huge problem …"
  • Fischbach said hundreds of his fans were suspended from their YouTube and Google accounts after "spamming" emoticons, YouTube's emojis, for his chat direction, for a livestreaming event he hosted in partnership with YouTube Originals.
  • In the tense video, Fischbach criticized YouTube for denying fans' appeals, saying the problem extends beyond automated systems using YouTube for content modification, arguing that the platform is affecting people's livelihoods.
  • On Twitter, the @TeamYouTube account told Fischbach "the accounts have been reinstated," and a YouTube representative told Business Insider that "a number" of the accounts have been reinstated while YouTube continues to investigate what happened.
  • In a response on Twitter, Fischbach added that "I understand that transparency is not usually YouTube's mode of operation, but when the problem runs deep you have to give us why or people will not trust your platform."
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Mark "Markiplier" Fischbach posted an explosive YouTube criticism on Friday after he said "hundreds" of his fans were just banned from YouTube and Google for simply commenting on too many emoticons, YouTube's emojis, in a row on one of Fischbach's livestreams.

Not only were YouTube and Google accounts suspended for "spamming" Fischbach's request (he asked fans to use red or green emotes), but Fischbach showed seven screenshots of fans who appealed the suspensions and were denied again by the platform's content moderators.

"There's probably a lot of you watching out here that have been affected by this, please I know I'm working on it, they're working on it, but goddamn I'm just as mad as you are," Fischbach said in the video. "Just seeing this and how it's affecting people is making me so mad that I'm losing my ability to give anyone the benefit of the doubt here."

The conversation between Fischbach and YouTube escalated on Twitter on Saturday, as the Team Twitter Twitter account replied to Fischbach's tweet of the video, saying, "The accounts have been reinstated and we are looking into why appeals were denied and how we can prevent them this in the future. "

Fischbach replied, "I understand that transparency is not usually YouTube's mode of operation, but when the problem runs deep you have to give us why or people won't trust your platform."

He also noted that not all of the accounts have been reinstated. A representative for YouTube told Business Insider that "a number of" accounts had been reinstated while YouTube continues to investigate the issue. Fischbach did not immediately respond to Business Insider's request for comment.

The Markiplier video raised concerns with YouTube's content moderation systems as a whole, with fans losing access to both their channels and their Google accounts

Fischbach's criticism is a major blow to YouTube. Markiplier, a gaming channel, has 24.5 million subscribers and ranks no. 81 in the most subscribed-to channels on YouTube. Fischbach is one of the most recognizable figures on the platform and, unlike many of his peers, has never suffered a major PR blow.

His video, titled "YouTube has a huge problem …", did not appear on the website's trending page despite racking up over a million views in less than 24 hours. In it, he specifies that he has no idea how many fans in total had their accounts suspended after his livestream, but believes it to be "hundreds" of people.

Fans communicated with Fischbach about what was happening through the moderators of the Markiplier Discord server, a messaging platform that many YouTubers use to communicate with fans and build a community. Fischbach praised his moderators as "heroes" for collecting "data" and screenshots from fans experiencing suspensions, some of which Fischbach inserted into his video.

One screenshot from a chat with fans showed someone claiming (with screenshots) that they had their account un-suspended upon review, then re-suspended after another 30 minutes.

Fischbach says his livestream, "A Heist with Markiplier," which was produced with YouTube Originals, was planned to take about an hour before he learned of the suspensions. As part of the event, he encouraged viewers to comment on the livestream's chat function.

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A screenshot from Fischbach's video showing an email received from a fan whose Google account was disabled after the "Heist" livestream.

Screenshot YouTube / markiplier

According to Fischbach, his Discord chat, and Markiplier fans on the popular subreddit "r / markiplier," YouTube's automated content moderation system began banning users from their YouTube and Google accounts for "spamming," an apparent infringement of YouTube's terms and services.

Fischbach said he was unaware that posting a string of emotes in a chat box was a violation, and urged other YouTubers to spread the information so people could avoid getting their accounts suspended.

He also noted in the video that he "never forgave" YouTube for banning his original channel in 2012 for "no reason" and denying his appeal.

"I've always held that against YouTube because I think their automated software is sometimes really bullshit, and they want to go the automated route for everything because they just don't have the manpower to do it manually. And I get that , "Fischbach said in his video.

"You need some automated systems. But when they're bad, and when it's causing this big of a problem, and it's not just causing a technologically speaking problem – this is peoples' livelihoods, this is their entire account. are they gonna do, explain to their boss, 'Oh sorry, I can't get into my Google Account, I was at a Markiplier livestream.' "

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A screenshot from Fischbach's video shows examples of comments that suspended users' YouTube and Google accounts for "spamming" violations.

Screenshot YouTube / Markiplier

Fischbach went on to criticize YouTube's team for not getting back to him. The "Heist" livestream took place on Wednesday, and he says he started emailing YouTube support soon afterward. Fischbach said the people he reached out to on YouTube have yet to get back to him.

"It's so unbelievably frustrating and I hope this is getting fixed but I gave them time to get back to me," he said in the video. "There are people that post whole pictures of d — s in live chat all the time, they don't get their account suspended. Why my fans?"

On Twitter, fans who had their accounts suspended also interacted with YouTube's "Team YouTube" account, which replies to tweets questioning content moderation decisions. One response from Team YouTube reads, "Appeals are very carefully reviewed – if your appeal is rejected, there is nothing more we can do."

In some cases, the issues faced by fans may extend beyond accessing their accounts to reaping monetary losses. As with YouTubers who have had their channels mistakenly demonized, some of Markiplier's fans say they are getting their accounts back but with their own videos missing. Others paid for subscriptions to Fischbach's channel that are now void, and some bought premium YouTube content that they could no longer access.

"What assurance do I have that people won't be banned again during future streams? Why are they banned in the first place? Why ban their google accounts?" Fischbach wrote on Twitter. The @TeamYouTube account responded that the company is investigating and will follow up with him.

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